Hey Guys
I noticed that a lot of ppl in the Fanbase dislike Miss Murderā¦ and want it off the Setlist.
What do you think about Miss Murder?
Why is there a problem with this song or video?
Do you like or dislike the Song?
Why is Miss Murder a love it or hate it song?
I still enjoy this song and it always reminds me when i saw it on MTV sommer 2006 (i was 18)
Probably without Miss Murder me and many others would not know AFI.
I still wear sometimes my Miss Murder Shirt nice teenage memories
It was a very divisive song - probably the most divisive they have ever written - among the fanbase. Miss Murder represented pretty much a complete departure from anything they had done previously, and a lot of people werenāt happy about that. Some people rag on Sing the Sorrow as their āselloutā album but Miss Murder is what really propelled the band into the mainstream public awareness. Nowadays I would think many people are sick of hearing it.
I donāt really care for the song. I donāt think itās objectively terrible or anything, but there are better songs from Decemberunderground and according to the band it was never even meant to be on the album. I love āThe View From Hereā, which is supposedly the song which got cut from that album for Miss Murder.
I have no issues with Miss Murderā¦I really like itā¦the problem for meā¦is that AFI play it too often People want to hear something differentā¦and boom! Miss Murder againā¦
Iām in total agreement with @Blag that said I still enjoy seeing it live. I might wish that they replaced it with another song, but thatās not going to stop me from enjoying it, yāknow? And I do appreciate that it was a lot of peopleās entry song into the AFI fandom
I always have and always will think it sounds weirdly similar to the Soft Cell version of āTainted Loveā. Not exactly the same or a carbon copy mind you, but similar enough to be pretty noticeable.
HEEEYYY MISS MURDER CAN I (clap clap) RUN AWAAYYYY
Ok @Blag@sayasha Yes, but i think it is quite normal for musicians and Bands that they play the song who was the biggest hit for them very often.
Just for example:
My friend saw this week his favourite Band Metallica live. And surprise surprise they were playing āNothing Else Mattersā and āEnter Sandmanā again
For me it was about timing. 7 albums in and they get their biggest single and a whole host of new fans that essentially would just want to hear that over anything that came before. Normally a bands biggest hit will come in the first couple of albums and grow with the fanbase. That wasnāt quite the case here. The core fanbase was already established, the influx of new fans became top heavy, and the core fanbase was unable to hold everything together when the band faded from the limelight, almost creating a one hit wonder effect. Youāll be hard pushed to find too many fans from pre DU that would put Miss Murder in their top 5 songs.
As a song itās not that bad. It became very overplayed though. A couple of years after release I heard a fan made remix version that combined both bridges together, and that extra 20-30 seconds totally transformed the song for me. I would love them to throw the die hard fans a bone with that song and considering either playing the alternative bridge live or combining the 2. I think that would be a decent way of saying ālook we get it, some of you donāt want here this, however letās see if we can sweeten the dealā. Gives the casual/newer generation of fans their big hit, while giving a nod to those of us nerdy enough to live and breathe the band.
EDIT: The last headline show they played didnāt contain Miss Murder and the Setlist was total lip service to the hardcore fanbase and easily the best Setlist theyāve put out since the STS days, so they do acknowledge this sort of thing at least.
EDIT2: As a final thought. Iāve seem them 9 times over here in the uk between 2003 and 2017. On those 9 occasions there are 3 songs Iāve seen at every single show. Girls Not Grey, Leaving Song pt 2 and Days Of The Phoenix. In fact I would be willing to bet that their most played song on these shores is Days Of The Phoenix and not Miss Murder.
This is one of the most accurate descriptions of AFI circa '06 - '07 Iāve ever read. Combine that with the fact that by '07 the pop punk/āemoā scene of the early 2000s was rapidly dying. Sort of makes it even stranger to hear them playing Miss Murder nowadays, now that I think about itā¦
Between what the band has reportedly said about Miss Murder in interviews and my personal opinion, Iām convinced the Miss Murder single was an executive decision by Interscope and/or Butch Vig. Davey hated the song vehemently - or so he says - but the story goes that they were rehearsing, Butch Vig made a comment about how it sounded like a hit, Davey said the lyrics didnāt mean anything so he didnāt want it on the album but after suggestions from the label, Jade convinced him otherwise.
I like Miss Murder. Itās a fun song with a screaming part and I appreciate it being on the set list. On their current tour there are a few songs I would get rid of but MM is not one of them.
Iām pretty sure he dislikes anything heās done from 1991-1998 anyway.
Iām grateful Miss Murder existed because itās the reason that a label decided to fund Blaqk Audio. Itās also the only reason theyāre still touring as an uncredited, opening band. If it wasnāt for Miss Murder, AFI would be even more irrelevant in the music scene than they are nowadays.
@Pablo When AFI are irrelevant in the Music scene why is every Album since sts in the Top 15 Billboard charts?
The Most Bands would not even hit The Top 100 or Top 200.
Iām confusedā¦
They are irrelevant when they spend more time touring as a support band than headlining. Iām not sure if CL even charted, but Iām pretty sure some albums charted in the rock billboard, not on the billboard 100. Theyāre irrelevant when theyāre not the main act as they used to be even at kroq events, even if itās a year they released an album. Their label doesnāt care for them anymore. They arenāt even on the ads for their current tour.
However if you think theyāre still as relevant as they were in 2006, I totally respect your opinion.
Also, Iām sure they chart with the album release because some people (like the fanbois at afi news hq or whatever their current name is) leave their Spotify session playing their album nonstop literally. They even advised fans to do so.
What we mean to say is that AFI has not been relevant in the mainstream since '06 - '07 when they released and toured DU. I donāt know how big they might have been in Germany, but in North America and the UK they were quite a popular band back then. It was fairly common to see random people wearing their shirts and the singles from that album were played in shopping malls and clothing stores all the time. Then after '07 they sort of faded into obscurity again from the public eye.
Just because something isnāt at the forefront of mainstream awareness doesnāt mean itās no good, itās just that itās not particularly following a current trend or there are other issues like a lack of promotion or support from the label. Overall, AFI was never a big band in the grand scheme of things, and that is a fact. They never influenced a ton of bands or helped create a new genre despite how unique their sound was especially around the AOD - STS era. They are a very niche type of band that (for the most part) appeals to a certain type of person with certain interests and tastes which are outside the norm. At least thatās how it was years ago; Iām pretty certain their issues since Crash Love has a lot more to do with their label and a lack of real promotion.
Here is the interview where they talk about Miss Murder. I seem to remember they also mention it in some other interviews but this is the main one. I personally believe that from this point onward they started writing songs ābackwardsā as Davey said; coming up with lyrics and the bare structure of the song and then trying to superimpose meaning onto it rather than having a concept in hand and expressing that lyrically. Thatās just my own feeling but I guess once you find a formula you stick to itā¦
Iād say the major reason for their albums still charting fairly well is due to the fans that already exist buying (or streaming) the albums. They arenāt exactly bringing in hordes of new fans all the time these days, like they did with STS (when I was introduced to them) and DU. They also play music thatās just not particularly relevant in the mainstream nowadays, and have doubled down on their 80s post-punk influences and brought them even more into the forefront. Obviously, thatās not a bad thing and they shouldnāt just play whatās popular at the moment. They should just do what they wanna do. However, what theyāre doing isnāt exactly whatās big right now.
nice teenage memories 
People want to hear something differentā¦and boom! Miss Murder againā¦
wow i am really shocked.
can you send a Link or something?